THE GLADIATOR

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  Athiest what do you believe?

  by real one in

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  im just wondering because it seems like you have no hope.

  please set me straight.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  It is like discussing the existence of fairies with someone who bases their beliefs on 'My Big Book of Fairies', who refuses to look at other books which would show that book is a collection of stories, and who at the same time insists that the Boogieman doesn't exist even though there are other books about him.

  This is very true.

  Of course most fairy stories contain a wicked witch and they all try to cast spells on each other but in the end the good fairy wins.

  Like the Bible they are stories that attempt to explain the negative and positive energies at work in the universe, without which it could not exist.

  These story books can not be taken at face value or believed literally. Only Gladiators are real.

  GT
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  Could religious belief be considered a sign of mental illness?

  by nicolaou in

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  2. medical

  religious believers clearly have tendencies to make-up "facts" and "evidence" rather than accept true research and admit even the simplest of belief failures.

  they have strange ceremonies that are virtually pointless but are said to have special significance or power.. we all know certain 'christians' alive today who are fully prepared to argue that they might never die!

  couldn't it be argued that such a reversion into childlike fantasy is a telltale sign of mental illness?

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  DeputyDog: You asserted that "religious belief" could be a sign of mental illness. I agreed that it could, if we could include atheism.

  History and statistics seem to show that theist out number atheist by more than 10 to 1. So let me ask you, in the atheist world view, if survival of the fittest rules, who's the fittest? Who is doing the best job of surviving?

  These comments show such obvious warped logic that it is laughable. Religious belief is the opposite of atheism. It cannot be included as if it were a branch of religion.

  To equate survival of the fittest with religious belief is absurd. The process of survival on this planet has spanned millions of years and religion has played almost no part in terms of time.

  Animals, which due to no conscious belief in a God we must consider to be atheists, have survived far longer than humans and continue to do so, out numbering humans. The recent arrival of humans is damaging the planet.

  If by your reckoning 90% believe in a God, we must if we apply your logic, conclude that the world is safer in the hands, or paws, of athiests.

  TG
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  What Have I Missed Since I've Been Away This Past Week???

  by minimus in

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  can i have some convention highlights please?

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  THE GLADIATOR

  Minimus

  You have missed me. I am back from Rome tanned and tired.

  You are a strange looking creature, so round and red for such a prolific poster.

  You would attract a lot of attention at an arena parade. Do you really look like that?
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  The Whining on this Site

  by easyreader1970 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is sort of a response to lex talonis' message but i thought it warranted a separate topic.

  i am both offended and encouraged by his suggestion that most of us here are just whiners.

  i think it is encouraging that he wants the watchtower society's mentally damaging message stopped.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  I can see how you managed to rack up so many posts, Terry.

  If this you were working on 'repetition for emphasis,' in the ministry school you would have got a tick.

  This is the longest whine on this thread.

  Salute
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  Richard Dawkins Gets "Expelled" by Ben Stein!

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i just got back from seeing the new movie release "expelled" which is a documentary exposing the militant culture of supression regarding intelligent design in the scientific community.

  in a "million years", i never would have imagined that ben stein could get the author of "the god delusion", richard dawkins to speak favorably about i.d.

  (intellignet design).

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  THE GLADIATOR

  Burn: "therefore the application of Darwinism to human society without regard to the sacred dignity of the human person is evil".

  You see here is an example of a persons belief system intruding on their use of plain English.

  The sentence could read, 'Therefore the application of Darwinism to human society without regard to the sacred dignity of the human person is evil unwise.
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  Could religious belief be considered a sign of mental illness?

  by nicolaou in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  religious believers clearly have tendencies to make-up "facts" and "evidence" rather than accept true research and admit even the simplest of belief failures.

  they have strange ceremonies that are virtually pointless but are said to have special significance or power.. we all know certain 'christians' alive today who are fully prepared to argue that they might never die!

  couldn't it be argued that such a reversion into childlike fantasy is a telltale sign of mental illness?

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  THE GLADIATOR

  Real One: Gladiator I believe in the trinity God the Father, the son Jesus Christ and The Holy Spirit, any one of these Gods can take care of all of your gods with one breath.

  Caedes, in all fairness to Real One I did challenge his Gods to fight it out with mine in the arena. I though at first that he had only one God but now it turns out he has three. How many more is he hiding under his robe? My understanding is that he he only has one God which he had given three names in an attempt to match my many Gods. I was deeply hurt when he called my Gods false and had to restrain my self from unsheathing my Gladius. This God thing is complicated. No wonder it leads to mental illness!
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  How the new "generation" study went down in the meeting today

  by slimboyfat in

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  2. bible

  i made a big effort to get to the watchtower study today.

  i have not been to the meetings much for months, but i figured this was a pretty historic "study" and i wanted to see reactions and how it would go down locally.

  well a few things struck me as a bit odd in the study itself, and in the audience response as well.

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  JCanon

  To accept your explanation, Jehovah’s Witnesses would have to accept that they have not replaced Israel.

  It was Judge Rutherford who explained that the followers of the Society had replaced Israel and all the blessings promised to Israel were to be bestowed on them. He claimed that Jesus had returned in 1914 and was ruling in the heavens – but invisibly! Only with the aid of the Society's books would anyone be able to see this, as Jesus was revealing himself through them.

  All Bible references to Israel were a coded way of foretelling the rise of Jehovah's Witnesses, though at that time they had still not adopted this name. Due to their rejection of Jesus, Israel were to be cast away forever.

  This was in total contrast to the entire chapter in “The Time is at Hand” entitled “Parallel Dispensations,” where by quoting many scriptures Russell had attempted to show that Israel, as an earthly nation, had been promised that it would return to God’s favour and its homeland.

  Many of the books written from then on set out to prove that all the promises made in the Bible, relating to Israel, had been or were about to be fulfilled on the Society and its followers.

  The Witnesses believe that they alone are God’s chosen people. They alone have God’s spirit and guidance. Israel was restored – the Witnesses were living proof! They believe that the Bible’s promise to bring Israel into a land of their own where they would dwell in peace and security has been fulfilled, on them.

  TG
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  I'm always right....ALWAYS! and you are wrong!

  by odie67 in

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  2. experiences

  my husband tells me that i act as if i can never be wrong, i always have an answer for everything...everything!

  ....that i'm always pointing the finger at the next person and that i also have the "i'm a victim" attitude.

  he thinks it's my upbringing as a jw.

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  odie67

  Don't worry about it - it has nothing to do with Jehovah's Witnesses - it is a woman thing.
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  Richard Dawkins Gets "Expelled" by Ben Stein!

  by Perry in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i just got back from seeing the new movie release "expelled" which is a documentary exposing the militant culture of supression regarding intelligent design in the scientific community.

  in a "million years", i never would have imagined that ben stein could get the author of "the god delusion", richard dawkins to speak favorably about i.d.

  (intellignet design).

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  THE GLADIATOR

  Burn The Ships said:

  I am who I am, and it is better to lose with passion and the identity of the self than to "win" and lose one's soul. I am "better", because I take the harder path, because it is the right one.

  These are the words of a Gladiator! I may adopt this as my motto.

  Or course the dictionary defines a Gladiator as - ‘A person engaged in a controversy or debate, especially in public; a disputant.’

  Burn The Ships and Hillary both qualify but I must with regret point out that Perry as a Christian combatant can never attain the status of Gladiator.

  It is just as well because if the rules were bent to allow him in, he would be turned into cat food quicker than a lion could roar.
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  Athiest what do you believe?

  by real one in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  im just wondering because it seems like you have no hope.

  please set me straight.

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  THE GLADIATOR

  Gopher

  You have made a good point. I thought about whether to reply, as it unusual for me to talk to what appears to be a giant beaver, but decided to Gopher-it.

  As I understand it - Atheists are adamant there is no God.

  Agnostics like to sit on the fence waiting to be convinced but are more lay back about the whole fiasco than Religionists and Atheists.

  I have many gods but none of them are real. It suits me that way, as I am good at fantasising!